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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sun May 26, 2013 8:17 pm

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Mon May 27, 2013 11:48 am

David Harvey wrote:
Well done, we need more

http://www.bloomberg.com/video/thames-super-sewer-to-clean-water-create-jobs-Ki3P4XuORd~MC9b_zYlE_g.html


Just completed mine - successfully this time (I think!.......)
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Tue May 28, 2013 8:09 pm

Thanks Barry

TAC reply was done under registration ID is 10018681.

We have registered to speak at any hearing etc, a picture of dead fish and faeces floating down should help as well


This closed at 11:59pm tonight, its only takes 5 mins to register any view!
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Jul 26, 2013 1:02 pm

Tideway times Summer 2013

http://www.thameswater.co.uk/tw/common/downloads/aboutus-projects-tidal-thames/Tideway_Times_July_2013.pdf


Also had confirmation from the planning inspectorate, all 31 pages, here is just the into Shocked 


Application by Thames Water Utilities Limited for the Thames Tideway Tunnel
Notice of preliminary meeting and availability of relevant representations1
I am writing to you following my appointment2 by the Secretary of State on the 3 June
2013 as the lead member of the panel forming the Examining authority (ExA)3
, which
will examine this application for a Development Consent Order (DCO).
The ExA thanks those who have submitted relevant representations. These
representations have assisted us in considering how to examine this application.

This letter is in six parts with a number of supporting annexes:
1. Confirmation of your status as a ‘Statutory Party’, ‘local authority’ (with the
right to participate in the examination) or an ‘Interested Party’;
2. Invitation to the preliminary meeting and details about how to suggest
additional agenda items;
3. The purpose of the preliminary meeting;
4. Arrangements for the preliminary meeting;
5. Procedural decisions made by the ExA under s89(3) Planning Act 2008 (as
amended) (PA 2008);
6. Award of costs.
1. Confirmation of your status as a ‘Statutory Party’, ‘local authority’ (with the
right to participate in the examination) or an ‘Interested Party’
1 Section 88 of the Planning Act 2008 (as amended) (PA 2008) and Rule 6 of the Infrastructure
Planning (Examination Procedure) Rules 2010

s61 PA 2008 and Rule 4 The Infrastructure Planning (Examination Procedure) Rules 2010
3 Annex F letter confirming the appointment of the Examining authority
3/18 Eagle Wing
Temple Quay House
2 The Square
Bristol, BS1 6PN
Customer
Services:
e-mail:
0303 444 5000
ThamesTunnel@infrastructure.gsi.gov.uk

David Harvey on behalf of Thames
Anglers Conservancy
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25 July 2013www.planningportal.gov.uk/infrastructure 2

You have been sent this letter either because you are an Interested Party, a Statutory
Party or a local authority with the right to participate in the examination. Your unique
reference number is provided at the head of this letter. All relevant representations
submitted are available for you to access on the National Infrastructure pages of the
Planning Portal’s website or to inspect at various locations. The details of where and
when the representations and application documents can be inspected are provided in
Annex A to this letter.

2. Invitation to the preliminary meeting and details about how to suggest
additional agenda items

The preliminary meeting will take place on 12 September 2013, continuing onto the
13 September 2013 if necessary. Registration will begin at 09.30 hrs (9:30am)
and the meeting is scheduled to start at 10:30 hrs (10:30am) at the Barbican
Centre, in the Barbican Hall, level one, Silk Street entrance, London, EC2Y
8DS. If it is considered that any additional time may be required the ExA will advise
at the meeting how this will be notified to all invited Parties.

If you wish to speak at the preliminary meeting please write, email or telephone the
Planning Inspectorate using the address and contact details set out at the front of this
letter identifying the agenda items you wish to speak on and listing the points you
wish to make, and marking it for the attention of Mark Wilson (Principal Case
Manager). In accordance with the procedural decision set out at Annex E

the
Planning Inspectorate must receive this request by 17:00 hrs (5pm) on
Wednesday 28 August 20135
.
If you need to identify and notify the ExA of any additional agenda items you believe
are important and relevant to be dealt with at the preliminary meeting (taking into
account the purpose of the preliminary meeting) these must also be made known in
writing by 17:00 hrs (5pm) on Wednesday 28 August 20136
.
This is also the
deadline for providing any legal submissions supporting representations about how
the application is to be examined and to be raised at the preliminary meeting.
3. The purpose of the preliminary meeting
The purpose of the preliminary meeting is to enable views to be put to us about the
way in which the application is to be examined. It is important to appreciate that
this meeting deals only with procedure and not with the merits of the
application. The merits of the application will be considered once the examination
starts after the preliminary meeting has closed. Guidance for the examination of
applications for development consent, Department for Communities and Local
Government, 26 April 2013, is available on the National Infrastructure pages of the
Planning Portal website: http://infrastructure.planningportal.gov.uk/legislation-andadvice/guidance
The ExA will determine how it will examine the application as soon as practicable after
the preliminary meeting. We wish to run a fair, efficient and effective preliminary
meeting to enable us to hear all relevant views. We strongly encourage groups of
individuals who have similar views about the examination process to choose one
representative to speak for the group.

4 s89(3) Planning Act 2008 decision of the ExA set out at Annex E
5
s89(3) Planning Act 2008 decision of the ExA set out at Annex E
6
s89(3) Planning Act 2008 decision of the ExA set out at Annex E
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:42 pm

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Thu Oct 10, 2013 1:55 pm

Hi Dave,
Thanks for keeping the posts coming. So much council/legal/planning info its hard to keep up with it all, so really important that you keep passing on these nuggets/condensed bits of info.

Whats your gut feel at the moment?

Speak Soon
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:09 pm

Been bit quiet as its now all down to the Planning inspectorate, long process.

Here is the latest from them:

www.planningportal.gov.uk/infrastructure
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Your Ref:
Our Ref: WW010001
Date: 19 December 2013
Dear Sir/Madam
The Infrastructure Planning (Examination Procedure) Rules 2010 (as
amended)
Application by Thames Water Utilities Limited for an Order Granting
Development Consent for the Thames Tideway Tunnel
Examining authority’s second written questions and requests for further
information, statements of common ground1 and notification of further
hearings and accompanied site inspection2
Further to the procedural decision and timetable enclosed with our letter of
26 September 20133 I am writing to inform you about the Examining authority’s
(ExA’s) second written questions and second requested statements of common
ground, together with the notification of the times, dates and locations for further
hearings and the accompanied site inspection.
1. Second written questions
The ExA thanks those who provided responses to its first written questions. In the
light of those responses, the other written submissions and the matters raised at
hearings, the ExA has decided to ask a number of second written questions. These
questions can be seen on the Planning Inspectorate, National Infrastructure, Thames
Tideway Tunnel project page of the Planning Portal website and will also be available
for inspection at the locations listed in Annex A as soon as practicable. Responses to
the questions and requests for information must be received on or before Monday 13
January 2014.
1Rule 13 of the Infrastructure Planning (Examination Procedure) Rules 2013 (the EP Rules)
2 Rule 16 of the EP Rules
3Our letter of 26 September 2013 can be seen on the Planning Inspectorate, National
Infrastructure, Thames Tideway Tunnel project page of the Planning portal website.
3/18 Eagle Wing
Temple Quay House
2 The Square
Bristol, BS1 6PN
Customer Services:
e-mail:
0303 444 5000
thamestunnel@infrastructure.gsi.gov.uk
David Harvey
DAVSURB@HOTMAIL.COM
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The questions are directed, in the first instance, to the Applicant and/or another
named Party. However, the ExA invites Interested Parties to respond where they
have relevant information to contribute. Where it is helpful to refer to documents
already submitted please provide any document reference number together with the
page and/or paragraph number. However, it should be assumed that the question is
being asked because the ExA is seeking additional information or clarification on the
matter raised. Please provide as full a response as possible with supporting evidence.
Please do not phrase responses in the form of questions to the ExA. The ExA is
seeking to ensure that there is sufficient evidence to support a soundly reasoned
recommendation. The questions are set out under subject headings relating to the
Principal Issues, in the same format as the first written questions. It would be helpful
if responses could follow this format and include the reference number of the question
being answered.
2. Statements of common ground
Requests for initial statements of common ground were included in our letter of
25 July 20134 and further requests were included with the ExA’s first written
questions5. The ExA urges all Parties to reach agreement on those matters that can
be agreed and to indicate the scope of matters that cannot be agreed. The ExA now
has some additional requests which are included with the second written questions
referred to above. Even if statements of common ground cannot be fully agreed by
the deadline of Monday 13 January 2014 please could Parties ensure that
documents are submitted by that date identifying where matters are agreed or still
subject to discussion.
3. Notification of the dates, times and locations of hearings
The ExA has decided to hold the following additional hearings:
 Issue Specific hearings relating to the rationale for the selection of work sites and
drive strategies; traffic and transport and noise and vibration;
 4 Open Floor hearings;
 A Compulsory Acquisition hearing.
The times and dates of these hearings will be as set out in Annex B to this letter.
Interested Parties who have notified us in advance of their wish to speak at these
hearings are asked to register with the Planning Inspectorate at the venue. The Issue
Specific and Compulsory Acquisition hearings will start at 10.30am with speaker
registration from 9.30am. The Open Floor hearings will start at 7.00pm with speaker
registration from 6.30pm.
The ExA has received a request from the London Borough of Hammersmith and
Fulham to cross-examine the Applicant’s representatives regarding the rationale for
the selection of work sites and drive strategies. The ExA agrees to this request
because it considers that cross-examination on this matter will ensure that the London
Borough of Hammersmith and Fulham has a fair chance to put its case6. Details of
the arrangements for cross-examination will be set out in the agenda for this hearing.
Agendas will be published on the Thames Tideway Tunnel project page of the Planning
Portal website at least 5 days in advance of the particular hearing. It would help in
4 See Annex E to the Rule 6 letter of 25 July 2013
5 Published 26 September 2013
6 Section 94(7) Planning Act 2008 (as amended) (PA 2008)
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the running of these hearings if Interested Parties could confirm their intention to
attend and speak at individual hearings at least 7 days in advance.
4. Notification of accompanied site inspection
The ExA is grateful to all those who have made suggestions in relation to the
accompanied site inspection. All of these suggestions have been considered although
in some cases the ExA has decided that an accompanied inspection is not necessary,
for example because the suggested location has been or will be the subject of an
unaccompanied site visit or because the Panel will visit another location with a very
similar relationship to the proposed project. The timetable for the accompanied site
inspection will be as set out in Annex C to this letter. The timetable gives broad
locations and in some cases it will be necessary for the Parties to identify specific
properties where access may be gained with the agreement of the owner/occupier.
As notified in Annex C the site inspection will begin at 10.00am at the Carnwath Road
Riverside site. Those attending are asked to meet at the junction of Carnwath Road
and Peterborough Road.
A detailed itinerary will be sent to those who have notified us of their intention to
attend all or part of the site inspection at least 5 days before the site inspection
begins. The ExA therefore asks that any party suggesting access to private properties
makes contact with the Planning Inspectorate using the contact details at the head of
this letter by Monday 13 January 2014 at the latest.
It would help the organisation of the site visit if those wishing to attend some or all of
the site inspection could inform the Planning Inspectorate using the same contact
details also by Monday 13 January 2014. It may not be possible to accommodate
all requests if large numbers are received. All Parties are reminded that any access
onto private land will be subject to the permission of the owner/occupier. The ExA
wishes to avoid the need for large numbers of people to enter private properties.
However, it will be necessary for a representative of the property owner/occupier to
be present together with a minimum of 2 members of the ExA, one member of the
Planning Inspectorate’s case team and at least one other party. The accompanied site
inspection is not a meeting or a hearing. No oral or written evidence may be
given at the site inspection.
5. Submission of next iteration of the draft Development Consent Order
At the hearing of 26 November 2013 the Applicant stated that it was in the course of
considering a number of revisions to the draft DCO in response to matters raised
during the examination. Rather than submitting a revised draft DCO for the deadline
of 2 December 2013, the Applicant felt it would make better use of time if the
revisions could be discussed with other Parties in advance of submission to the ExA.
The Applicant undertook to provide an updated draft DCO together with a revised
Code of Construction Practice, taking account of those discussions, by the deadline of
13 January 2014. Mindful of the short time the ExA would have before the Issue
Specific hearing on the draft DCO, (scheduled for 20 January 2014), the Applicant
undertook to provide the documents to the Planning Inspectorate in hard copy by
10.00am on 13 January 2014.
6. Comments on matters arising from hearings
All Parties are reminded that if they wish to make written comments on matters raised
orally at hearings this should be done by the next submission deadline as set out in
the timetable referred to above.
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7. Statutory undertakers' land
Sections 127 and 138 of the Planning Act 2008 (as amended) (PA 2008) apply in
relation to statutory undertakers' land which is the subject of compulsory acquisition
within a DCO application. In summary, the need for such a certificate arises where an
applicant for development consent is seeking the acquisition of statutory undertakers'
land, this land is used for the purposes of carrying on their undertaking, and a
representation about the application has been made and not withdrawn. Section 138
relates to consent for powers over land to be acquired for the extinguishment of rights
and/or removal of apparatus.
The Panel has been appointed to examine on behalf of, and make a recommendation
to, the Secretaries of State in relation to any applications for certificates under s127
and consents under s138 of the PA 2008. The decision as to whether or not to grant a
certificate or consent is one made by the Secretary of State responsible for the
statutory undertaker.
Yours faithfully
Jan Bessell
Jan Bessell
Lead Member of the Examining authority – on behalf of the Panel
Annexes:
Annex A – Availability of documents
Annex B – Times and locations for hearings
Annex C – Times and locations for accompanied site visits
Advice may be given about applying for an order granting development consent or making representations about an
application (or a proposed application). This communication does not however constitute legal advice upon which you can
rely and you should obtain your own legal advice and professional advice as required.
A record of the advice which is provided will be recorded on the Planning Inspectorate website together with the name of the
person or organisation who asked for the advice. The privacy of any other personal information will be protected in
accordance with our Information Charter which you should view before sending information to the Planning Inspectorate.
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Annex A – Availability of documents
On the National Infrastructure pages of the Planning Portal website:
http://infrastructure.planningportal.gov.uk/projects/London/Thames-Tideway-Tunnel/
A copy of any representations made and examination documents will also be made
available for inspection at the following places and times:
Institution of Civil Engineers
One Great George St
London
SW1P 3AA
Monday - Friday only (closed on public/bank holidays)
9am - 5pm
No copying facilities
Glaziers Hall
9 Montague Close
London Bridge
London
SE1 9DD
Monday - Friday only (closed on public/bank holidays)
9am - 5pm
No copying facilities
Linden House
Upper Mall
London
W6 9TA
Monday - Friday only (closed on public/bank holidays)
9am - 5pm
No copying facilities
A DVD of the application documentation is available free of charge upon written
request to the Applicant. To request a DVD or hard copy of the application
documentation (or any part of it) or to request copies of individual documents or
extracts from them in other specific formats or forms, please contact the Applicant
using the details below:
By post to: Freepost RTCL-HJLR-ZUST, Thames Tideway Tunnel, London, W2 1AF
By e-mail to: info@tidewaytunnels.co.uk
Hard copies of any other examination documents, including representations, are also
available upon written request to the Applicant. Charges will apply to the provision of
hard copies of documents as follows:
The first 50 printed sheets will be provided free of charge. Additional printed sheets
required to meet a request received by the Applicant will be charged at the following
rates:
 A4 (black and white) - 10 pence per sheet
 A4 (colour) - 20 pence per sheet
 A3 (black and white) - 20 pence per sheet
 A3 (colour) - 40 pence per sheet
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Annex B – Times and locations for hearings
Date Hearing Speaker’s
Registration
Time
Hearing
Start
Time
Venue
Wednesday 22
January 2014
Issue Specific
Hearing on
Site Selection
and Drive
Strategy
09.30 to 10:30 10.30 Glaziers Hall, 9 Montague
Close, London, SE1 9DD
Thursday 23
January 2014
Issue Specific
Hearing on
Site Selection
and Drive
Strategy
09.30 to 10.30 10.30 Glaziers Hall, 9 Montague
Close, London, SE1 9DD
Friday 24 January
2014
Issue Specific
Hearing on
Traffic and
Transport
09.30 to 10.30 10.30 Glaziers Hall, 9 Montague
Close, London, SE1 9DD
Monday 27
January 2014
Compulsory
Acquisition
Hearing
09.30 to 10.30 10.30 Glaziers Hall, 9 Montague
Close, London, SE1 9DD
Tuesday 28
January 2014
Compulsory
Acquisition
Hearing
09.30 to 10.30 10.30 Glaziers Hall, 9 Montague
Close, London, SE1 9DD
Wednesday 29
January 2014
Open Floor
Hearing
from 18.30 19.00 St Paul's Shadwell
302 The Highway
London
E1W 3DH
Thursday 30
January 2014
Open Floor
Hearing
from 18.30 19.00 Hurlingham and Chelsea
School, Peterborough Road
Fulham, London, SW6 3ED
Monday 3
February 2014
Open Floor
Hearing
from 18.30 19.00 Glaziers Hall, 9 Montague
Close, London, SE1 9DD
Tuesday 4
February 2014
Issue Specific
Hearing on
Noise and
Vibration
09.30 to 10.30 10.30 Glaziers Hall, 9 Montague
Close, London, SE1 9DD
Wednesday 5
February 2014
Open Floor
Hearing
from 18.30 19.00 The AHOY Centre, Borthwick
Street, Deptford, London,
SE8 3JY
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Annex C
Accompanied site inspection
Any access onto private land will be subject to the permission of the owner/occupier.
It will be necessary for a representative of the property owner/occupier to be present
together with a minimum of 2 members of the ExA, one member of the Planning
Inspectorate’s case team and at least one other Party. No oral or written evidence
may be given at the site inspection.
Time/date Location
10.00 on Wednesday
29 January 2014
Carnwath Road Riverside and surroundings
14.00 on Wednesday
29 January 2014
Kirtling Street and Heathwall Pumping Station and
surroundings including Nine Elms Pier
10.00 on Thursday
30 January 2014
Chambers Wharf and surroundings
14.00 on Thursday
30 January 2014
Deptford Church Street and surroundings
10.00 on Friday
31 January 2014
King Edward Memorial Park and surroundings
14.00 on Friday
31 January 2014
Tower Bridge, Blackfriars Bridge Foreshore and
Victoria Embankment Foreshore
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PROPOSED THAMES WATER UTILITIES LIMITED (THAMES TIDEWAY TUNNEL) DEVELOPMENT CONSENT ORDER
APPLICATION REFERENCE WW010001
Notice of application for a closed hearing under section 95A of
the Planning Act 2008
Notice is hereby given that the Secretaries of State for Communities and Local
Government and Environment, Food and Rural Affairs have received a request
for a direction under section 95A of the Planning Act 2008 (hearings: defence and
national security).
Section 95A provides that the Secretaries of State may direct that
representations of a specified description may be made only to specified persons
(instead of being made in public) if satisfied that the making of particular oral
representations at a hearing would be likely to result in the disclosure of
information as to defence or national security, and that the public disclosure of
that information would be contrary to the national interest.
The application for a direction concerns selected evidence relating to construction
access to the Albert Embankment Foreshore site as referred to in the Draft
Thames Water Utilities Ltd Development Consent Order, Work No. 15 (Doc Ref:
3.1) (printed pages 48-50 refer).
Representations are sought as to:
 whether a direction should be made; and
 whether you would have wished to attend a hearing and make
representations on this matter.
Should a direction be made, those interested parties who would otherwise have
wished to attend and make representations at the closed hearing will be
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:14 pm

Bottom line is that H&F council have got a special hearing about the drive site chosen in their borough. Visits are planned to all major sites, we can only hope they dont want Thames to change it as will need to go through the whole consultation process again.

If it stays on track we could be looking at mid 2015 for the works to start

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Wed Dec 18, 2013 3:53 pm

Not for the fickle hearted to read through documents,H and F councils are experts at playing the systems and will
employ all delaying tactics and question every move in the hope that a change of goverment will stop the project.
Lets hope Thames Water are up to the job and have the right people in place to push through such a urgently needed
Sewer Tunnel.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Sat Dec 21, 2013 2:25 pm

Looks like the tunnel could uncover something we aren't meant to know about:

http://www.ianvisits.co.uk/blog/2013/12/20/why-is-the-thames-super-sewer-subject-to-a-national-security-notice/
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:56 pm

From: http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/engineer-i-backed-4billion-thames-water-supersewer-but-its-too-dear-9106595.html

An engineer who championed London’s super-sewer today called for the £4 billion scheme to be scrapped in favour of smaller and cheaper projects to clean up the Thames.

Thames Water wants to build a 15-mile Thames Tideway Tunnel from Acton in the west to Abbey Mills in the east to prevent raw sewage flooding into the river during heavy rain.

Professor Chris Binnie, who led a study group in 2005 recommending the super-sewer be built, has now joined a string of campaigners calling for a halt to the project.

Professor Binnie, who has carried out a financial review of the plans, said: “The present benefits would be about £180 million. That’s about five per cent of the cost of the Thames Tideway Tunnel. I believe that benefits at or near this will mean the cost of the tunnel would be excessively costly.”

He joined other leading figures in arguing for smaller projects to tackle the problem, such as better urban drainage and separating sewage from water waste.

At a hearing last night before officials from the Planning Inspectorate, which is considering the scheme, Professor Binnie said: “There are a series of smaller-scale measures that have been looked at in isolation but they have not been looked at as a combination.

“I believe this should be investigated before going ahead with the tunnel, that there’s a more economical way of dealing with this.”

Sir Ian Byatt, director general of water regulator Ofwat from 1989 to 2000, argued that Thames Water has failed to investigate cheaper alternatives.

Raw sewage pours into the Thames from London’s Victorian sewer system once a week on average. Thames Water argues that a tunnel is the best way to deal with this problem.

Phil Stride, head of the Thames Tideway Tunnel at Thames Water, defended the scheme calling it the “cost-effective solution”. The Planning Inspectorate is nearing the end of its six-month investigation.
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:07 pm

Chris Binnie led the steering committee for Thames Water in 2005 as Chairman and advanced the technical need for the tunnel. After they stopped paying him he began to oppose the project... £$£$

Ian Byatt was the minister that pushed through the privatisation of the water utilities in 1989 when a part of the Conservative/Thatcher Govt. Even after as the head of Ofwat, he did little to construct a system that would enable greater investment to the infrastructure of the of our water utilities... £$£$

Funny how these people 'pipe-up' when the money stops rolling in. Old native American adage: "White man speak with fork tongue..."


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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Thu Mar 13, 2014 6:06 pm

Decision time, if its goes through full steam ahead, I suspect it will get referred again, to a higher force,

Dear Sir/Madam

Planning Act 2008 (as amended) – Section 99

Application by Thames Water for an Order Granting Development Consent for
the Thames Tideway Tunnel


Notification of completion of the Examining authority’s examination

As required by section 99 of the Planning Act 2008 (as amended), I write to inform
you as the lead member of the Panel of Examining Inspectors that the Panel
completed its examination of the above application at 23.59hrs on 12 March 2014.

Thank you to everyone who has contributed to the examination through written
submission, participation in accompanied site visits and oral hearings and for meeting
the deadlines and timetable we set.

The findings and conclusions arising from the examination, together with our
recommendation will be sent to the Secretaries of State for Communities and Local
Government and for the Environment, Food and Rural Affairs no later than 12 June 2014
.

Yours faithfully



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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Jun 06, 2014 6:57 pm

Went to a TTN meeting today, feeling is its a done deal but lets wait and see. The planning inspectorate report to the government on the 6th June but is not available for anyone to see, understandably. Then key time is end of September when the final report comes out.

Potentially they can ask for changes to the plans, so now just a waiting game.

A few positive news items

http://waterbriefing.org/home/company-news/item/9237-moodys-government-specification-of-thames-tideway-tunnel-is-key-step-for-project

http://www.planningresource.co.uk/article/1297330/queens-speech-new-infrastructure-bill-contain-further-planning-changes
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Thu Aug 14, 2014 6:08 pm


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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:00 pm

Bump, 12th Sep is the planning inspectorate decision, what do we think?

I think it goes back for more changes, lets see
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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Tue Sep 02, 2014 6:34 pm

Hopefully they will just get on and build the thing.
Any particular bits there might be problems with?

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:50 am

Just picked up in twitter, from "Utility Week" magazine, the Secretary of State has given it the go-ahead

Utility Week wrote:


Thames Tideway Tunnel planning permission granted
12/09/2014

The Thames Tideway Tunnel was granted planning permission by the Planning Inspectorate on Friday.

The £4.2 billion super sewer had its planning permission approved by government despite objections raised by Hammersmith and Fulahm council.

Hammersmith and Fulham Council claims that inadequate consultation over plans of an excavation site on the riverbank at Fulham would make residents suffer from an “avoidable misery” and “24/7 noise, dust and air pollution”.

Thames Water had originally planned using the Richmond site, on open fields at Barn Elms, near the Wildfowl and Wetlands Trust nature reserve at Barnes for its tunnelling work to take place.

After a period of consultation, Thames switched the proposed tunnelling site to a brownfield site by Carnwath Road in Fulham because initial consultation responses urged it to “avoid greenfield sites, where possible, and use the river more for transporting materials”.

Despite this, Hammersmith and Fulham council remained opposed to the plan and has threatened a legal challenge to the super sewer plans.

In a letter to the environment secretary, councillor Wesley Harcourt, the cabinet member for the environment, said: “The devastating sewer proposals would see south Fulham homes blighted, roads congested and school children and vulnerable residents all at risk from noxious fumes.”

The Thames Tideway Tunnel project has been designed to run 25km along the River Thames between Acton and Abbey Mills and intercept 34 combined sewer overflows.

It will divert their surface water and sewage discharge to a wastewater treatment facility rather than allowing it to discharge directly into the river.

A failure to tackle the sewage overflow into Thames after periods of heavy or intense rainfall would leave UK facing EU fines of up to £100 million a year.

Phil Stride, head of the Thames Tideway Tunnel, said: “The Thames Tideway Tunnel will not only solve the current problem of the river being treated like a toilet, but it will make London’s sewer network fit for the 22nd century.”

To help fund the construction of the super sewer, Thames Water has said that consumer water bills would increase by about £80 a year.

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PostSubject: Re: *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*   Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:07 am

Confirmation:
The Planning Inspectorate wrote:


To all interested parties


Your Ref:
Our Ref: WW010001
Date: 12 September 2014


Dear Sir/Madam

Planning Act 2008 (as amended) – Sections 116 and 117 and The Infrastructure Planning (Environmental Impact Assessment) Regulations 2009 (as amended) – Regulation 23

Application by Thames Water Utilities Limited for an Order Granting Development Consent for the Thames Tideway Tunnel

Notice of the decision by the Secretaries of State

I write to notify you of the publication of the Secretaries of State’s decision and statement of reasons and the Order granting development consent in relation to the above application.

The Secretaries of State as the decision makers under s103 and s104 of the Planning Act 2008 (as amended) have decided that development consent should be granted, and therefore have made an Order under s114 (1)(a) of the Planning Act 2008.

Electronic copies of the decision documentation, including the Secretaries of State’s statement of reasons and the text of the made Order can be viewed at:

http://infrastructure.planningportal.gov.uk/projects/london/thames-tideway-tunnel/

The report submitted to the Secretaries of State by the Examining Authority is also available at the same link.

Hard copies of the decision documentation will also be available to inspect at the Planning Inspectorate’s offices (by appointment using the contact details above). If you wish to receive a copy of the Secretaries of State’s decision letter and the text of the Order, please write to or email us using the contact details provided at the top of this letter.

There is no right of appeal under the Planning Act 2008. The High Court may entertain proceedings to question an Order granting development consent from the day on which the Development Consent Order is published or (if later) the day on which the statement of reasons is published. The procedure is to make an application for judicial review. This must be done within the statutory period of time set out in s118 of the Planning Act 2008. Please contact the Administrative Court Office for further information on 0207 947 6655 or follow this link:

http://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/rcj-rolls-building/administrative-court/applying-for-judicial-review

If you have any queries about the Secretaries of State’s decision letter or the made Order please contact:

Department for Communities and Local Government
Planning Casework Division
Third Floor, Fry Building
2 Marsham Street
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Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs
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Tel: 03459 33 55 77
Email:defra.helpline@defra.gsi.gov.uk

Alternatively, if you would like to find out further details about the project you can visit the applicant’s website at http://www.thamestidewaytunnel.co.uk/ or contact the applicant on 0800 0721 086.

Yours faithfully

Mark Southgate

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For and on behalf of the Secretaries of State for Communities and Local Government and Environment, Food and Rural Affairs

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