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PostSubject: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Wed Apr 04, 2012 4:52 pm

Dates as below, exact areas to be confirmed.

As with last year if you want to go along and see what happens, take a few pictures, do a report, everything is welcome.

We will find out nearer the time how much on the ground help they will need so will post it up.

Denton (Gravesend) 17.05.12
Mucking (Stanford le Hope Nature Reserve) 18.05.12
Richmond (White Cross Pub) 22.05.12
Kew (Cafe Rouge, Putney) 23.05.12
Chiswick (Chiswick Ait) 24.05.12
Battersea 25.05.12
West Thurrock (Grays) 29.05.12
Greenwich (Royal Naval College) 30.05.12
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PostSubject: tidal surveys   Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:42 pm

i should be ok for west thurrock grays for our species from the estuary Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:58 pm

Cheers Andy Smile

Going to be very interesting as the saline limit is much higher up due to the low flows. Expect the unexpected Cool
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Mon May 07, 2012 7:36 pm

These are coming soon, first one is only 10 days away

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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Wed May 09, 2012 9:47 pm

hi
is there a time for grays? is it at the worlds end public house car park
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Fri May 11, 2012 12:00 am

Hi mate

Will find out and let you know
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Sun May 13, 2012 5:41 pm

Andy, reply as below, checking on times for the other sites

We're due to net at 1154hrs on 17th, same location as last year, Denton Pier by the pub, south bank. We'll be there 40mins earlier or thereabouts.
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PostSubject: spring tidal surveys   Tue May 15, 2012 6:56 pm

i wont be at denton pier on the 17th i be down for grays on the 29th Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Mon May 21, 2012 5:27 pm

Actual Survey times as below, if you are going down to see what happens and show support, need to be there in very good time.



Richmond (White Cross Pub) 22.05.12 - 12:30 pm

Kew (Cafe Rouge, Putney) 23.05.12 - 1:00 pm

Chiswick (Chiswick Ait) 24.05.12 - 1:00 pm

Battersea opp lots Road 25.05.12 - 12:30 pm

West Thurrock (Grays) 29.05.12 - 1:20 pm

Greenwich (Royal Naval College) 30.05.12 - 3:10 pm

If you are going, take a camera Smile
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Mon May 21, 2012 9:03 pm

I will be at Richmond tomorrow 12:00 will anyone else be able to make it along?

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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Mon May 21, 2012 9:22 pm

Nice one Ed, I have a Crane Valley meeting at 11am in Twickenham and going to disappear at 12, so see you there.

Anyone else local tomorrow lunchtime ?
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Tue May 22, 2012 3:53 pm

It was a very hot day and the water was very clear.
Caught only juvenile flounder and one bullhead.
Pictures here.
Great to meet the EA guys though and the help was very much appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Tue May 22, 2012 5:05 pm

Ed Randall wrote:
It was a very hot day and the water was very clear.
Caught only juvenile flounder and one bullhead.
Pictures here.
Great to meet the EA guys though and the help was very much appreciated.

Very poor compared to years before. Did they have thoughts why?

I remember seeing gobies, bass, flounder, dace, bleak, stickleback, minnow, roach, perch all come out from the Richmond netting before.
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Tue May 22, 2012 10:09 pm

Yes very disappointing. They thought it was because of the amount of water we've had down recently.
Personally I thought because the water was clear, no cover in that area, and it was a very bright day. If I was a fish I don't think I'd be hanging out just there, I'd be further along under the boats.
On the bright side, the bullhead and flounder are good water quality indicators. Dissolved oxygen was very high, 112% I think.

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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Wed May 23, 2012 2:41 am

Thanks for going Ed and supporting the EA fisheries guys.

Anyone else going down bar Andy at Grays?
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Wed May 23, 2012 9:47 am

Anyone going along today, Kew (Cafe Rouge, Putney) 1:00? It would be good to have at least one TAC person turn up to each of these. They can just about do the job with the 4 they have but a couple of helpers really helps. Get there about 20 minutes before and take your wellies (or waders +lifejacket if you have them).

Have to say, today's location is a bit ambiguous, Kew and Putney aren't anywhere near one another; Checking the Cafe Rouge website I guess they mean 85 Strand on the Green, Kew Bridge, W4 3PH opposite Oliver's Island.

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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Thu May 24, 2012 12:33 pm

Did anyone make it along yesterday (Kew) or today (Chiswick) Question
Battersea tomorrow, best chance of seeing a smelt. bounce

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PostSubject: EA spring surveys   Tue May 29, 2012 8:09 pm

hi all attended my 2nd survey and this year i was handed a life jacket and put to work. i noticed the fish were much bigger but not as many species. we had some nice mullet just under a pound some large flatfish and tons of bass around 2ozs upto about 8ozs. i was shown an estuary rag worm and told it was a top bait until they found a peeler crab. when i arrived they told the others who i had not met last year that i brought them luck and this year we netted a butter fish. we use a rod and line they use a net however the magic of an unusual capture is the same. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Fri Jun 01, 2012 10:47 am

Nice one Andy, great report Smile
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Fri Jun 01, 2012 11:12 pm

Nice one Andy! Cool


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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Sat Jun 02, 2012 6:59 pm

Anyone know the EA thoughts on why the sample sites we know of turned up less species?

We've seen trend data for the electro fishing from Hurley to Teddington but would be good to see the stats for the tidal nettings over the years.
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:53 pm

on the estuary the EA said we would see more species in the late summer/autumn as we did have 14 species last year with about 6 this year however we did have a rare butter fish which some of the EA staff had not seen before.
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PostSubject: Re: *EA Spring Tidal Surveys*   Sat Jun 02, 2012 10:55 pm

Nice one Andy....and you were very lucky to see a butter fish. I seem to remember last year's turned up a pogge. The Thames is amazing.
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PostSubject: EA spring tidal surveys   Sat Jun 02, 2012 11:10 pm

There was a time when Roach were the "Bread and Butter" fish on the Thames,
would like to see a few more of them
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