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PostSubject: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:37 am

Following the recent devastation on the Crane, we are trying to find out where all the CSO's are on the Thames tributaries.

Its not an easy question as there are some many tribs feeding tribs but are going to find out.

So tell us about your local river, where is it, has it had any previous history of pollution, or just a lovely little waterway. Do you have any concerns, whats the rubbish like and more.

The more we know, the better equipped we are for the future folks
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Tue Nov 15, 2011 7:09 am

Can someone please explain to me, as I am thick as an elephant's after berth, what the hell a CSO's are/is

many thanks,

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a pic will do nicely

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so I know what I am looking for
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Tue Nov 15, 2011 8:09 am

hi keith.think they stand for,controlled sewage ,outlet flower
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Tue Nov 15, 2011 9:08 am

Combined Sewer Overflows. Rainwater from the drains, combined with sewage, overflowing in to your river. Other than a weir upstream there's no control about them!

(from Surfers Against Sewage, http://www.sas.org.uk)

More here:
http://www.phillyriverinfo.org/csoltcpu/Home/System_Overview.aspx
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PostSubject: trouble on the tribs   Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:46 pm

i ca do "treated" sewage outfalls on the roding and its tribs like cripsey brook and brookhouse brook. the ingrebourne river with its tribs weald brook and paynes brook.
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:59 pm

William Pettigrew wrote:
hi keith.think they stand for,controlled sewage ,outlet flower

Close....but no cigar.

You stick to catching fish just mere fractions off the Thames record mate Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Tue Nov 15, 2011 6:08 pm

cheers Ed and Willi
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Wed Nov 16, 2011 1:10 pm

heres one, on the river bourne chertsey, gogmore park, we help clean it up 2 months ago, have had probs with this out lit before, every think turns orange, taking to locals, it has been reported to EA, last year there was a fish kill, but could not get any info








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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:11 pm

Orange is really not a good colour in a river, something is being put down there that should not be.
Could be anything from rusty old iron to acid pollution.
Please call EA & get a ref number.

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Usually this sort of thing with the metal cover which prevents the river water going back up the pipe and flooding the sewers:
https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/i10W9TWht3EPLiLgWxxFTE99dyZU39LHtorjkOwVZko?feat=directlink
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:50 pm

Keith it is worth investigating further up and see if you can find the source. It looks like a clay run off or something. Def not right.

Not sure who the EA catchment officer is, so will find out.
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Wed Nov 16, 2011 6:53 pm

Where's your trib, this may help..

http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/000ADOBES/OilSpill/D203_LBP22_rivers.pdf


For me the local Hogsmill river is of concern as a major water treatment works is nearby. Steve H may have views here as well.

Beverley Brook, what about that, Willie?
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Wed Nov 16, 2011 7:57 pm

gonna take a walk the whole length of the brook,from worcester park to thames.
anyone fancy it?
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:24 am

I cleared along that bank during the litter pack a couple of months back & noticed the orange colour around that outfall, although there was far less of it back then & no flow coming from it.

I've also noticed a similar orangey colour in other parts of the Bourne & on other streams & rivers & wondered what it was (guessed it had something to do with iron salts leaching out of the soil or elsewhere).
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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Fri Nov 18, 2011 1:16 pm

Keith i have checked out the Bourne and it is naturally occuring, something that is known as Iron bacteria. Where the river runs through iron deposits, not harmfull.

The EA team are the ones we know the best, so sending phtos across to get it visually checked as well

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PostSubject: Re: Trouble on the Tribs, a time for action   Fri Nov 18, 2011 2:00 pm

cheers Dave, will have a talk with a few local that fish it, but last year, there was a small fish kill in that area, just after a big rain fall, the river turned orange, I did post it on here, but cannot find it,
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