Thames Anglers' Conservancy Members Forum
TAC Members-Only Forum
If you have arrived here and not yet signed up as a member, then please first join at http://forum.rivertac.org/register using your real name.

Forum Membership is with Real Names only.
Please create a Username that is your First Name and Surname eg. "Joe Bloggs"
(This will save our Admin team the need to contact you about changing it)

http://rivertac.org/membership


Thames Anglers' Conservancy Members Forum
 
HomeHome  TAC Home PageTAC Home Page  SearchSearch  FAQFAQ  RegisterRegister  Log in  
Navigation
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 
Rechercher Advanced Search
Latest topics
» Thames TideFest 10th September 2017
Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:51 pm by David Harvey

» Eel Trap Results 2017
Sun Aug 20, 2017 11:47 pm by David Harvey

» Do you recognise any of these men?
Sat Aug 19, 2017 8:44 pm by Ed Randall

» Roads closed everywhere ~ July 29th/30th ~ bike race
Wed Jul 26, 2017 9:17 am by Ed Randall

» Better access to free Thames fishing in Reading
Fri Jun 16, 2017 10:08 am by Ed Randall

» Eel screens on Water Works intakes
Tue May 23, 2017 10:26 pm by Julian Jones

» River Thames Conditions - Quick Dial Numbers
Sun May 21, 2017 10:00 am by Ed Randall

» Ap[ril showers? If only! Drought beckons...
Thu May 04, 2017 6:56 pm by Ed Randall

» Abbey river this Saturday (12/5/2012)
Thu Apr 27, 2017 4:41 pm by Ed Randall

» Molesey Eel Monitoring Training ~ 29th April 2017
Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:12 am by David Harvey

» Thames Water fined a record £20m for River Thames pollution
Fri Mar 24, 2017 1:54 pm by Stephen Bond

» Crane Riverfly Training ~ May 6th 2017
Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:08 am by Ed Randall

» TAC visit to Tideway Tunnel Exhibition in Parliament
Wed Mar 15, 2017 7:32 am by John LeSurf

» "Citizen Crane" project - sampling dates
Thu Mar 02, 2017 4:24 pm by Ed Randall

» Egham & Stains bankside enhancement followed by brewery trip
Sun Feb 19, 2017 6:27 pm by Ed Randall

» SE Rivers Trust needs help on Hogsmill
Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:23 pm by Ed Randall

» Crane volunteering opportunities
Fri Jan 27, 2017 5:38 pm by Ed Randall

» Seal (with enormous fish) in Thames near Richmond Lock
Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:34 am by Ed Randall

» [Petition] to eradicate size and catch limits for pike to be taken and culled
Wed Jan 25, 2017 8:27 am by Ed Randall

» *Thames Tunnel (Tideway Tunnel)*
Tue Jan 24, 2017 9:42 pm by Ed Randall

» reels for sale
Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:51 am by JeffHowe

» A new address for 2017 ~ forum.rivertac.org
Sun Jan 01, 2017 11:06 am by Admin

» New users - Registration issues
Thu Dec 29, 2016 11:47 am by Ed Randall

» Shepperton river death - Van removed near Dockett Eddy Lane
Thu Dec 22, 2016 9:54 am by Ed Randall

» EA Pollution incidents: 2015 evidence summary
Mon Nov 21, 2016 5:04 am by David Harvey

» Ham & Petersham cleanup Saturday 19th Nov
Sat Nov 12, 2016 6:01 pm by Ed Randall

» LIVE THAMES TEMPS AND CLARITY - TAC exclusive!
Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:51 pm by Stephen Bond

» Citizen Crane Forum at ZSL - Mon 14th Nov 2016
Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:36 am by Ed Randall

» fishing trolleys
Sun Oct 30, 2016 11:23 am by Harry Notley

» Draw off 2016
Sat Oct 29, 2016 2:24 pm by Ed Randall

Angling Data View
River Levels
UK Map

Thames Tides

Share | 
 

 working out the tide times

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
Adrian Hoare

avatar

Male Posts : 1434
Join date : 2010-01-21
Age : 39
Location : sunbury on thames

PostSubject: working out the tide times    Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:48 am

need someones help here !!!
If on this monday morning , the tide time on pla website shows 02:44am at a height of 7.2m at london bridge , am i right in saying that 02:44 is the time of the tide at its peak point ? From low tide to when it starts to rise , is it roughly 2 hours before the time stated on the website when im fishing teddington ?
Reason i ask is i want to get there and cover the start of rising tide to half way through the drop , instead of keep going hours before and wasting time .....
I always go by the london bridge tide table , so i need someone to answer for me the following .... From the time stated on the pla website for london bridge when i fish teddington stretch

1, how much time do i take off what it says on the website , for when the tide starts to change , rising , When fishing teddington only ?

Thanks alot guys , much appreciated .... Especially fishing the night tide , all i wanna do is get to the spot ten minutes before the tide starts to come in , and fish up until its half way back down .
Especially with the night tides , i wanna get the session times accurate so i can have a sleep before hitting the banks .
Matt , colin , jeff , one for you guys , or if anyone else can give me some kind of formula or something it would be much appreciated !
Back to top Go down
James Page



Posts : 2153
Join date : 2010-01-21

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:14 am

adrian, I've always added one hour from london bridge for the richmond to tediington stretch, and work on an hour for the tide to come in, it can be longer depending on size tide, and if we've had lots of rain and there's a downstream wind, conversely, if we've had no rain and there's an upstream wind, it can come in quicker
I dont think you'll be able to fine tune your arrival time to ten minutes, but here's hoping a lockeeper proves me wrong
Back to top Go down
Ed Randall

avatar

Male Posts : 3181
Join date : 2010-11-19
Age : 51
Location : Twickenham

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:15 am

Times at Richmond Lock are here:
http://www.pla.co.uk/display_fixedpage.cfm?id=11&site=maritime

Coming up to max. +5.3m at 06:15 (BST) on Wednesday morning, watch where you park your car! EDIT: The times on that table are GMT, so add an hour - that one gets me every time!

The sluice gates at Richmond are only open about 2 hours either side of high tide, so upstream of Richmond it half-tide most of the time, then a 4-hour up-and-down.
http://www.pla.co.uk/display_fixedpage.cfm/id/2253/site/recreation
Quote :
For current information please contact the Lock Foreman on 0208 940 0634

When you're up at Teddington, (if you remember in the excitement of the session!) can you note the time when it starts to come in and when it starts to go back out again and post back on here so we have a record.


Last edited by EdRandall on Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:06 pm; edited 1 time in total
Back to top Go down
Krzysztof Nowobilski



Posts : 28
Join date : 2010-10-04
Age : 59
Location : Ashford Middlesex

PostSubject: Twickenham   Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:36 am

I asked a similar question last week. I am now even more confused as to the tide times at Twickenham........ Mad
Back to top Go down
Ed Randall

avatar

Male Posts : 3181
Join date : 2010-11-19
Age : 51
Location : Twickenham

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:08 pm

Twickenham is upstream of Richmond, so will be the same semi-tidal behaviour as upstream of Richmond, similar times plus some amount of delay.
Back to top Go down
Ed Randall

avatar

Male Posts : 3181
Join date : 2010-11-19
Age : 51
Location : Twickenham

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Sun Jul 31, 2011 2:01 pm

Just now spoke to Paul at Richmond lock; today (Sunday 31st July) high tide is 16:18, sluice gates will open 2 hours before and close 2 hours after giving you a 4-hour window. The times at Teddington are almost the same as at Richmond, the offset is 0.0 so you can just use Richmond times.

Twickenham will therefore be the same as well.
Back to top Go down
Krzysztof Nowobilski



Posts : 28
Join date : 2010-10-04
Age : 59
Location : Ashford Middlesex

PostSubject: Twickenham   Sun Jul 31, 2011 3:29 pm

Thanks for that. Makes sense now.......... Laughing
Back to top Go down
Colin Brandon



Posts : 209
Join date : 2010-04-09

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:39 am

Here's what I do:

Weirs at Richmond raise at approx the stated high tide time at London Bridge. They're generally open for 4 hours, depending on rain fall, height of tide etc

Low tide at Richmond below the Lock (ie full tidal) is the stated low tide time at London Bridge + 3hrs 50 mins so 13.00 at LB = 16.50 at Richmond.

All timings are BST. Subtract 1 hour on all calculations for GMT.

Back to top Go down
Krzysztof Nowobilski



Posts : 28
Join date : 2010-10-04
Age : 59
Location : Ashford Middlesex

PostSubject: Twickenham today   Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:33 pm

So.......I read the tide time at Richmond to be 4.35 pm, so set up at Twickenham at 3.30, expecting high tide to be approx 5 ish. Anyhow, the top of the tide was about 10 to 6, and over the path when any boat went past. Under-gunned my feeders, so could only hold bottom with a lead. I had fish on the feeder before the tide came up. One a chuck roach, dace, bleak and chub. Had a reasonable chub of just over 2 pounds, but nothing on the pellet. As I was with the missus, 6.15 was cut off. I will return with the right stuff, but enjoyable all the same. Rolling Eyes
Back to top Go down
Ed Randall

avatar

Male Posts : 3181
Join date : 2010-11-19
Age : 51
Location : Twickenham

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:40 pm

Gotcha again - it was 16:45 GMT!
17:45 in the real British summer time.
Back to top Go down
Jeff Kennett



Posts : 100
Join date : 2010-02-04

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:55 pm

All published tide heights are predicted and, as such, should be used only as a guide. For example, on the Monday just gone, high tide at Teddington was 30 minutes later than the published time, Previous posts on the subject are correct in that to estimate high tide at Richmond and Teddington, simply take the time given for London Bridge and add an hour. Ditto for estimating low water below Richmond.

I"m not sure what they do at Richmond Lock but at Teddington, as well as recording the height of the river every hour, 24/7, we also record both the time and height of the river when the flood tide starts and when it peaks.
Back to top Go down
James Page



Posts : 2153
Join date : 2010-01-21

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Fri Aug 12, 2011 6:55 am

hoorah, clarity at last
its great its unpredictable, if I wanted predictability I'd be on a stillwater, catching things with pet names
Back to top Go down
Colin Brandon



Posts : 209
Join date : 2010-04-09

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:27 am

At Richmond our guages constantly monitor tide height and movements. All published times and heights are indeed predictions. For low water on the full tidal below Richmond add 3hrs 50mins BST to the London Bridge low water times (2.50 GMT).
Back to top Go down
Mark Hathway

avatar

Male Posts : 159
Join date : 2010-07-04
Location : In Streamer Weed

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Sun Aug 28, 2011 10:58 pm

Was thinking of fishing the Semi @ Ham on Thursday for silvers. Tide @ Richmond is 4:53am @ 5.4mtrs.

Does that mean it will be high tide around 6am and then run off all morning.
If so I can catch silvers all morning, break for pub lunch and then maybe have an evening into dark session on the non-tidal in hope that the bream bite Very Happy
Back to top Go down
Steve Holmes



Posts : 2435
Join date : 2010-01-28

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:08 am

Mark Hathway wrote:
Was thinking of fishing the Semi @ Ham on Thursday for silvers. Tide @ Richmond is 4:53am @ 5.4mtrs.

Does that mean it will be high tide around 6am and then run off all morning.
If so I can catch silvers all morning, break for pub lunch and then maybe have an evening into dark session on the non-tidal in hope that the bream bite Very Happy

High tide 04.53, add the hour for BST so HT at Richmond lock will be 05.53. Thursday is a strong tide so won't take long to reach Ham, so yep, not too long after 6 would be about right.

That strength of tide will bring in some very silty, coloured water so you should have it away with bream and roach all the way through really.

The way the non tidal is fishing, you might be better off staying on the semi. Have found the bream right in the middle where the flow is strongest, for what it's worth. Good luck mate.
Back to top Go down
James Page



Posts : 2153
Join date : 2010-01-21

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Mon Aug 29, 2011 7:02 am

gotta agree steve, it always fishes better during the summer when flow is minimal above teddington
Back to top Go down
Mark Hathway

avatar

Male Posts : 159
Join date : 2010-07-04
Location : In Streamer Weed

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Mon Aug 29, 2011 9:07 am

Cheers chaps - looks like a morning on the steps at river lane and then a decision to be made on what to do in the evening.
Back to top Go down
Krzysztof Nowobilski



Posts : 28
Join date : 2010-10-04
Age : 59
Location : Ashford Middlesex

PostSubject: re. Working out tide times   Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:09 am

Fished at Twickenham yesterday.....got there very late, half hour before top of tide! Roach bites which resulted in roach every time I hit them! Fished for two hours over the top. Pleasant session, although my live-bait didn't get taken......lots of topping scattering fish though, so predators were about. Wink
Back to top Go down
Ed Randall

avatar

Male Posts : 3181
Join date : 2010-11-19
Age : 51
Location : Twickenham

PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:38 pm

Some big tides coming up next week - peaking at 7.4m Weds 17th 16:36, Thurs 18th 17:21 (times in BST at Brentford)

_________________
TAC Secretary
Angling Trust member #61385
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




PostSubject: Re: working out the tide times    

Back to top Go down
 
working out the tide times
View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1
 Similar topics
-
» Low tide heights
» Sunny Rhyl!!!
» Roker Pier came good in the end 26.01.12
» BSA species hunt 2012 Roker beach / Rathouse 06/01/12
» Blue Bridge Rhyl

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Thames Anglers' Conservancy Members Forum :: Open Section :: Thames Info and Links-
Jump to: